In this episode of Light Talk, the Lumen Brothers talk about everything from running out of swag at LDI2019 to killing turkeys. Join lighting designers and educators Steve Woods (SMU), David Jacques (California State University Long Beach), and guest co-host Brackley Frayer as they pontificate about: post-LDI blues; "If its a fast song, its red, and if its a slow, song its blue"; should you buy road cases for your expensive moving lights and consoles; how useful are Light Labs; Kenton Yeager's Classroom Theatre; good replacements for PAR backlights; Total Bastard Products gifts for the holidays; building a lighting design business; when to throw in the towel and give up on theatre?; should you move to Vegas?; and placing yourself in a position of opportunity.